In this episode of the Thrivecast, Jason Blumer sits down with longtime friend and CPA leader Barrett Young to talk about the messy, honest journey of building a firm—and the transitions that shape us along the way.

Barrett shares his story from becoming a CPA, to launching his own virtual firm, to eventually closing it and joining an 80-year-old accounting firm where he is now a partner. Along the way, he wrestled with burnout, the pursuit of “freedom,” and the deeper realization that purpose, culture, and meaningful work matter more than simply escaping the traditional model of public accounting.

Together, Jason and Barrett explore what it really means to be an entrepreneur in the accounting profession, why lifestyle firms and scaling firms often create tension in the industry, and how leaders must filter advice to build the firm that actually fits their life and calling. They also dig into Barrett’s work helping business owners with succession planning and exit strategy, highlighting the uncomfortable but necessary conversations family businesses often avoid—and why ignoring those conversations can destroy both companies and families. This episode is an honest look at leadership, vision, failure, and growth. If you’re building a firm, questioning your direction, or navigating major transitions in your career, this conversation will challenge and encourage you.